Armchair Hockey Scout Beta

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18

Andrew Copp

Detroit Red Wings Center

Sixty-nine career plus-minus in 644 games, and a 15th-percentile chance share in the first year it went the other way.

SeasonTeamGPGAPTS+/-PIMPPSHGWSS%TOI
2014-15WPG1011+2000040.013:16
2015-16WPG777613+860005413.08:00
2016-17WPG649817+8180117711.712:21
2017-18WPG8291928+1714020969.413:44
2018-19WPG69111425+2060128213.412:10
2019-20WPG63101626-3101051218.317:42
2020-21WPG55152439+22060111513.018:15
2021-22WPG/NYR72213253+151632518311.519:11
2022-23DET8293342+2251121207.518:09
2023-24DET79132033-22611310911.916:16
2024-25 so far
Career644104173277+691411281996110.814:60

This Season So Far

The 2024-25 season has not started. The empty row above is his, and both it and this paragraph fill in on their own from the morning after he first plays: what he has done, what it is worth against his own last season, and the run he is on when the two disagree.

Last Season

Seventy-nine games, 13 goals and 20 assists with 1 on the power play and 1 shorthanded, 16:16 a night and minus-2. He converted 11.93 per cent of 109 shots against a career 10.82 across 961.

He took 44.2 per cent of the expected goals at five-on-five over 1,027 minutes, the 15th percentile, and his ice went 42-45 against an expectation of 34.27-43.30. A career plus-69 across 644 games says this is not what he usually looks like; a club ranked 27th at suppressing chances says why.

The Finesse Game

One hundred and nine shots at a median of 22 feet with 46 per cent from inside 20. He gets to the slot and he is not a natural finisher — 104 goals in 644 games at 10.82 per cent.

One hundred and seventy-three career assists. The puck moves quickly and simply and the offensive value is in the third line rather than the second, which is where this club has been playing him.

The Physical Game

He forechecks hard and finishes his checks at 6-1 and 200, and 141 penalty minutes in 644 games is a low rate for a man who initiates that much — the contact is legal and it is constant.

He kills penalties and has 8 career shorthanded goals, and he wins defensive-zone draws. This is the whole of his value and it has been for ten seasons.

The Intangibles

A fourth-round pick in 2013 out of Ann Arbor, three years at Michigan, ten seasons and 644 games, and a career plus-69 collected almost entirely in Winnipeg.

He is 30 and playing at home on a club that has not made the playoffs. The chance share last season is the worst of his career by some distance.

The numbers underneath

On the ice

Five-on-five, 2023-24 · 1,027 minutes

Expected goals
44.2%
15th pct

share of the chances while he was out there

Shot attempts
43.6%
10th pct

share of the attempts while he was out there

Goals while he was on the ice: 42 for, 45 against. Expected: 34.3 and 43.3.

The eye and the numbers

Hindsight
Report
51st
Numbers
15th

The report ranks him 36 points above where the numbers do. It was written for a back edition, with the seasons that followed already known. Neither the agreement nor the gap says anything about the eye, and this report is excluded from the club-level comparison for the same reason. Why the numbers land there sets out the club he did it on, the minutes he played and the men he played them with.

Both bars are percentiles among the 201 skaters in this edition with a report and enough ice time. The report bar ranks the mean of the grades above — 64 on their own scale — against every other report's mean. The numbers bar ranks his share of expected goals. A gap is a disagreement about where he belongs, not two scales talking past each other.

Usual linemates

2023-24 · 1027 minutes at five-on-five

Share of his five-on-five ice time spent alongside each player, measured from shift charts. Special teams are excluded: a power-play unit is not a line.

Why the numbers land there

Five-on-five, 2023-24

The club
DET took 45.9% of the expected goals as a club. His own share is 44.2% — 1.7 below the club he did it on.
The role
Second line, 1,027 minutes at five-on-five — 62nd percentile in ice time.

With and without

TeammateTogetherHim apartMate apart
Michael Rasmussen43.4%44.9%40.9%
Moritz Seider43.0%44.8%43.6%
Ben Chiarot40.6%46.0%46.3%

43.4% together, 44.9% for him apart and 40.9% for Rasmussen apart. Splitting them up moved neither man. Whatever is driving the share, it is not this pairing.

Expected-goal share while both were on the ice, and for each man in the minutes he played without the other. Apart is the pair subtracted from his own totals. It does not settle who was carrying whom — apart from each other, both were still playing with somebody — but it does say whether the share travelled when the pairing broke up.

Where he shoots from

goal on goal missed

147 unblocked shots in 2023-24, 13 of them goals. His median goal came from 14 feet. 46% of his shots came from inside twenty feet, 20% from beyond forty.