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Joe Veleno
Montreal Canadiens Center
17 points, a minus-23, and a fourth-line centre on his third organisation at 25.
| Season | Team | GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | PIM | PP | SH | GW | S | S% | TOI |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020-21 | DET | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 12.5 | 15:06 |
| 2021-22 | DET | 66 | 8 | 7 | 15 | -14 | 22 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 73 | 11.0 | 13:13 |
| 2022-23 | DET | 81 | 9 | 11 | 20 | -12 | 30 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 85 | 10.6 | 12:47 |
| 2023-24 | DET | 80 | 12 | 16 | 28 | -16 | 25 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 86 | 14.0 | 13:57 |
| 2024-25 | DET/CHI | 74 | 8 | 9 | 17 | -23 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 75 | 10.7 | 12:07 |
| 2025-26 so far | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Career | — | 306 | 38 | 43 | 81 | -65 | 98 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 327 | 11.6 | 13:04 |
This Season So Far
The 2025-26 season has not started. The empty row above is his, and both it and this paragraph fill in on their own from the morning after he first plays: what he has done, what it is worth against his own last season, and the run he is on when the two disagree.
Last Season
8 goals and 9 assists in 74 games for 17 points, minus-23, on 12:07 a night between Detroit and Seattle.
75 shots in 74 games and 8 goals at 10.7 per cent. The rating is among the worst in this chapter and it came in twelve minutes a night.
The Finesse Game
The skating is genuine and nothing else has arrived. 17 points is close to his rate across five seasons and his career high is 21.
He was an exceptional-status junior who has become a fourth-line centre, and 9 assists in 74 games says the playmaking never translated.
The Physical Game
6-1 and 201, and honest without being heavy. He forechecks at speed and does not win many pucks below the goal line.
17 penalty minutes over 74 games is disciplined and on a club with the league’s busiest penalty kill that is worth something.
The Intangibles
A first-round pick, exceptional status in junior at 15, and three organisations by 25.
Montreal signed a local player cheaply for a fourth-line job. The projection is 15 points and penalty killing, which is what he is.
What kind of player
The searchable half of the report. The first group is computed from the season's own data; the rest are read out of the prose above, and each one carries the sentence that produced it. A subject the report never raised is simply absent.
- measuredcomputed here from the season's own data
- a strengthread out of the prose, and claimed
- he lacks itraised, and he does not have it
Each computed tag also says how well its measure holds up from one season to the next, because a tag describes a season that has finished and a reader will assume it predicts the one coming. Some do and some do not, and the gap is wide: five-on-five workload repeats well, scoring late does not repeat at all.
- perimeter· shoots from the outside, by choice or because he cannot get in
30.5% of his attempts from 40 feet or beyond, 91st percentile among forwards
Season to season, this measure repeats well (0.66) · 50% keep it
“He forechecks at speed and does not win many pucks below the goal line.”
“does not win many pucks below the goal line”
“9 assists in 74 games says the playmaking never translated.”
“The projection is 15 points and penalty killing, which is what he is.”
“17 penalty minutes over 74 games is disciplined and on a club with the league's busiest penalty kill that is worth something.”
The numbers underneath
On the ice
Five-on-five, 2024-25 · 802 minutes
- Expected goals
- 41.5%
- 6th pct
- Shot attempts
- 45.1%
- 13th pct
share of the chances while he was out there
share of the attempts while he was out there
Goals while he was on the ice: 18 for, 39 against. Expected: 23.3 and 32.9.
The eye and the numbers
HindsightThe two rank him within 15 points of one another. It was written for a back edition, with the seasons that followed already known. Neither the agreement nor the gap says anything about the eye, and this report is excluded from the club-level comparison for the same reason.
Both bars are percentiles among the 637 skaters in this edition with a report and enough ice time. The report bar ranks the mean of the grades above — 67 on their own scale — against every other report's mean. The numbers bar ranks his share of expected goals. A gap is a disagreement about where he belongs, not two scales talking past each other.
Tracked
NHL Edge, 2024-25 · 74 games
- Top speed
- 22.3 mph
- 53rd pct
- Bursts over 20 mph
- 1.54 a game
- Distance
- 2.00 miles a game
- Hardest shot
- 90.9 mph
- 83rd pct
fastest he was clocked all season; the league's average best is 22.2
how often he reaches that speed, not how fast he goes
skated, all strengths
one shot; the league's average best is 83.9
A top speed is a season's best, and a man who takes more shifts gets more tries at one; the percentile is the feed's own, against every skater, and says less between a top-pair defenceman and a fourth-line wing than it does between two men in the same job. The counts are shown per game for the same reason.
Usual linemates
2024-25 with DET · 630 minutes at five-on-five
- Christian Fischeroff the roster34%
Share of his five-on-five ice time spent alongside each player, measured from shift charts. Special teams are excluded: a power-play unit is not a line.
Why the numbers land there
Five-on-five, 2024-25
- The club
- CHI took 43.2% of the expected goals as a club. His own share is 41.5% — 1.7 below the club he did it on.
- The role
- 802 minutes at five-on-five — 36th percentile in ice time.
With and without
| Teammate | Together | Him apart | Mate apart |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ben Chiarot | 40.7% | 41.8% | 45.6% |
| Christian Fischer | 37.1% | 43.0% | 40.4% |
| Moritz Seider | 43.1% | 40.8% | 51.3% |
40.7% together, 41.8% for him apart and 45.6% for Chiarot apart. Chiarot was better away from him while his own share held, which is a mark against him more than for him.
Expected-goal share while both were on the ice, and for each man in the minutes he played without the other. Apart is the pair subtracted from his own totals. It does not settle who was carrying whom — apart from each other, both were still playing with somebody — but it does say whether the share travelled when the pairing broke up.
Where he shoots from
goal on goal missed
105 unblocked shots in 2024-25, 8 of them goals. His median goal came from 17 feet. 38% of his shots came from inside twenty feet, 30% from beyond forty.